State Secrets

State Secrets is a weekly interview podcast featuring Cipher Brief experts and national security leaders.

September 19th, 2022
State Secrets Podcast

The Complicated Case of Taiwan

China’s Communist Party is deep into preparations for its 20th party Congress that begins October 16th in Beijing, where expert observers are expecting President Xi Jinping to be confirmed for an unprecedented third five-year term. Xi is also expected to announce his new leadership team that will execute on the party’s agenda. And it’s safe to say that near or at the top of that Agenda is the issue of Taiwan. For context: When it comes to US policy, Washington’s official stance is that Taiwan is in fact, part of China and that if reunification occurs, it must be through a peaceful reunification. Beijing, meanwhile, sees Taiwan as a breakaway province that must be reunified, and has not rule out use of force to do so. Washington is bolstering Taiwanese defenses in the event that Beijing grows impatient and makes the strategic decision to reunify the island by force. So, diplomatically, the US recognizes one Chinese government yet Washington treats Taiwan like an independent nation when it comes to diplomatic engagement and military support. That’s the reason why China took such offense to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s recent visit to Taipei. Today’s guest agrees that the U.S.’ One China Policy presents a complicated engagement strategy. How did we get here? And what is the likelihood that the world’s two most powerful nations could come to blows over Taiwan? Ambassador Joe DeTrani has focued much of his career on China. He is not only a former Special Envoy for Six Party Talks with North Korea, he is also a former director of East Asia Operations at the CIA. In this episode, Cipher Brief COO Brad Christian sits down with Ambassador DeTrani to unpack the US’ One China Policy.

September 14th, 2022
State Secrets Podcast

Terrorism and Special Operations

On the morning of July 31, al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri, who has been in hiding since 9/11, walked onto the balcony inside a compound in downtown Kabul. The Egyptian-born physician had taken over the leadership of the terrorist organization after US Navy SEALS killed Osama bin laden in Abbottabad in 2011. For 11 years he had directed al-Qaeda from the shadows and there had been many false starts for the US intelligence agencies and special operations team who were tracking him. But on this day, as he stood outside, a US directed hellfire missile, reportedly fired from a drone killed him. The missile was incredibly precise, it killed the al Qaeda leader but not his family, who are believed to have been inside the building at the time. Air to surface missiles like this one are just one of the tools that US counter-terrorism teams have been using as they hunt down terrorist leaders around the globe. While Zawahiri’s killing was seen as the end of a long and costly manhunt – both in human lives and resources – what does his death mean to the future of the al Qaeda? I spoke recently with retired Lieutenant Generals Scott Howell and Mike Nagata. Lt. Gen Howell served as Commander of Joint Special Operations Command Central before he retired just over a year ago and Lt. Gen Mike Nagata served as Commander of US Special Operations Command before retiring in 2019. As the first Air Force officer to command JSOC, Lt Gen. Howell led a force of 14,000 personnel engaged in special operations across multiple areas of instability and was responsible for the readiness and mission execution of highly-specialized forces of the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines. And Lt. General Nagata’s final position before retiring was Director of Strategy for the National Counterterrorism Center – a job he held from 2016 to 2019. He served as Commander of US Special Operations Command-Central and was responsible for Special Operations across the Central Command region from 2013 to 2015 and was heavily involved in the first two years of combat operations against the Islamic State in Iraq, Syria, and elsewhere.

September 6th, 2022
State Secrets Podcast

The Impact of a JCPOA Deal with Cipher Brief Expert Norm Roule

Suzanne talks with former National Intelligence Manager for Iran (NIM-I) at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) Norm Roule on the impact of a potential deal to restore the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) nuclear agreement with Iran.

July 22nd, 2022
State Secrets Podcast

Former CIA Officer and Author Alex Finley

This week Suzanne talks with former CIA officer and author of new book Victor in the Trouble Alex Finley. They talk about her career, her path to becoming an author and how she recenlty became an expert on oligarchs and yachts.

June 6th, 2022
State Secrets Podcast

Author and Entrepreneur Steve Blank

This week, Suzanne talks with Steve Blank, the Silicon Valley Entrepreneur widely recognized as one of the most influential voices in technology today. Blank’s passion for US national security led him to co-launch two classes at Stanford, where he teaches. One is called Hacking for Defense, and the other, Hacking for Diplomacy. Hacking for Defense later became a federal program as part of the National Defense Authorization Act. Today, Steve has joined a chorus of voices complaining that Department of Defense ‘culture’ is hindering its ability to truly innovate and it’s putting the US behind its adversaries. What does that mean? And how could it impact future US national security and US competitiveness in the world?

May 22nd, 2022
State Secrets Podcast

Admiral James Stavridis

In this episode Suzanne catches up with Cipher Brief Expert and author Admiral James Stavridis (Ret) to talk about his new book- To Risk It All: Nine Conflicts and the Crucible of Decision.

April 27th, 2022
State Secrets Podcast

The Life of a CIA Shadow Warrior

Former Chief of Counterterrorist Operations Ric Prado spent the bulk of his CIA career undercover, taking on the hardest challenges the Agency had, from Nicaragua to Afghanistan. Now, the Cuban refugee shares the secrets of why he did it, and why he thinks it’s time to set the record straight.

April 19th, 2022
State Secrets Podcast

Living in a World of Open Source Secrets

Former Senior CIA Officer Kristin Wood shares her insights on secrets and the world of Open Source Intelligence. Now CEO of Grist Mill Exchange, Wood shares her insights on how businesses and the government can benefit the most from secrets that are sometimes right there in the open.

April 12th, 2022
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My Secrets for Briefing the President

Cipher Brief Publisher and CEO Suzanne Kelly talks with retired CIA Officer Beth Sanner, who spent 35 years in national security before recently retiring. Her responsibilities included serving as Deputy Director for National Intelligence, and as former President Trump’s Intelligence Briefer. That means that twice a week, for two years, Sanner met with the former President in the Oval Office, sometimes in other locations around the White House, to brief him on the nation’s most classified intelligence. In order to do that, she had to get inside her customer’s mind, anticipate the questions he would ask and have answers ready. What are some of the secrets Sanner has for briefing people in positions of power?

March 8th, 2022
State Secrets Podcast

Sierra Six- A Gray Man Series Author Mark Greaney

This week with all of the heaviness with what’s happening in Ukraine and a new world order taking shape, we wanted to give you a break from the stress of reality, and focus on fiction. What we’re seeing today is something that no many of us could have written about a few months or even a few years ago. And a failure of imagination comes with a price. So I think you’re going to find my conversation with author Mark Greaney as interesting as I did. Many of you already know Greaney as the author of the Gray Man series, and his latest book Sierra 6 is a well-written escape. If you follow Mark you also know that he wrote several books under the Tom Clancy name. In this episode we talked about what’s happening in Ukraine right now, what inspires him as an author and how continues to find the energy and discipline to write two books per year. I’m your host Suzanne Kelly, and this is the State Secrets Podcast.

February 7th, 2022
State Secrets Podcast

General Joseph L. Votel U.S. Army (Ret.) President & Chief Executive Officer BENS

In this episode Suzanne welcomes General Joseph L. Votel U.S. Army (Ret.) to the State Secrets podcast. Votel is now the President & CEO of the Business Executives for National Security (BENS) organization. This conversation covers General Votel's perspective on the ongoing Russia-Ukraine crisis and alot more, including the most pressing issues BENS is focused on in partnerhip with the US Government.

January 21st, 2022
State Secrets Podcast

Mitch Silber- Former Director of Intelligence Analysis NYPD

In this episode Suzanne talks with Cipher Brief Expert and former Director of Intelligence Analysis for the New York Police Department Mitch Silber. Mitch weighs in on how the recent hostage situation in Texas connects to New York City, and what he learned about protecting NYC during his time at the NYPD.

December 13th, 2021
State Secrets Podcast

Former CIA Officer and author James Lawler

In this episode Cipher Brief CEO & Publisher Suzanne Kelly talks with former CIA officer and author James Lawler about his new book Living Lies: A Novel of the Iranian Nuclear Weapons Program. Lawler spent more than half of his CIA career focused on WMD's and led the team that took down A.Q. Khan.

July 6th, 2021
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A Conversation with Cipher Brief Expert Ambassador Joe Detrani

What do Americans need to know about Chinese President Xi Jinping's comments during China's Centennial celebration? Are we likely to see military conflict over Taiwan? What are the risks of a miscalculation in today’s extremely fast moving world and should the U.S. be doing more to ensure we have better insight into China’s intentions? For these questions and more we caught up with Ambassador Joe Detrani for an expert brief.

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