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State Secrets

Mark Cooter & Alec Bierbauer- Co-authors of 'Never Mind We'll Do It Ourselves'

State Secrets is a weekly interview podcast featuring Cipher Brief experts and national security leaders.
<p>State Secrets Podcast</p>

Cipher Brief CEO & Publisher Suzanne Kelly talks to Mark Cooter & Alec Bierbauer, authors of the new book 'Never Mind We'll Do It Ourselves: How a Team of Renegades Broke Rules, Shattered Barriers and Changed The Face Of Warfare Forever.


The book tells the once highly classified story of the birth of the Predator program.

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