Cover Stories: Spies, Books & Entertainment

Cover Stories: Spies, Books & Entertainment is a new podcast from The Cipher Brief hosted by Cipher Brief CEO & Publisher Suzanne Kelly and Cipher Brief Senior Book Editor and author, Bill Harlow exploring the entertainment side of espionage as well as non-fiction books and media on national security issues that are making a difference. Join us each week for new episodes with authors, former intelligence officers, actors, directors, television and movie producers, agents, publishers and more.

May 24th, 2023

The Turkish Triangle

Bill Rapp was an academic historian before joining the CIA where he spent 35 years as an analyst. Among his assignments was as White House PDB briefer for Condoleezza Rice. After retiring he combined his past careers to become a prolific novelist. We talk to him about his latest book set in the middle of the Cuban Missile Crisis - but the action is in Turkey where CIA Soviet assets are mysteriously dying.

May 18th, 2023

Ghosts of Beirut

Imad Mughniyeah was a Lebanese terrorist responsible for more American deaths than any other individual – until 9/11. He is now the subject of a 4-part Showtime dramatic series that debuts on May 19. We talk with Greg Barker who directed and co-wrote this unusual series that tells from American, Israeli and Lebanese perspectives the story of the man who was behind many suicide bombings, hijackings and murders in the Middle East and who evaded capture for two decades until he was killed by a car bomb in Syria. The drama also weaves in first-hand, real-life interviews with prominent officials from the CIA and Mossad.

May 11th, 2023

Age of Danger: Keeping America Safe in an Era of New Superpowers, New Weapons, and New Threats

Former New York Times correspondent Thom Shanker and defense expert Andrew Hoehn have crafted an important new book looking at the challenges the United States faces from Russia and China – and from emerging threats like pandemics, AI-enabled weapons and cybersecurity. We talk with them about how to address these challenges which they say will require revamping the U.S. national security structure.

May 3rd, 2023

Unwavering – The Wives Who Fought To Ensure No Man Is Left Behind

The story of how a small group of women - wives of Vietnam POWs founded the National League of Families and rallied the nation behind the cause of bringing home American POWs and resolving the status of MIAs. Author Taylor Kiland tell this moving story.

April 13th, 2023

The Publisher’s Perspective

Interview with VADM Pete Daly, USN, Ret. CEO and Publisher of the U.S. Naval Institute. Daly discusses how USNI Press differs from mainstream publishers and academic presses. He talks about trends in the publishing industry, how the pandemic impacted book publishing, how authors can submit material for consideration and some of USNI’s greatest hits – including Tom Clancy’s “The Hunt for Red October.”

April 11th, 2023

Meeting the Woman Stories Are Written About

A few weeks ago, Cover Stories co-host Suzanne Kelly interviewed Executive Producer Alex Cary, the man behind the new show (on MGM+) A Spy Among Friends. The series is a fictional adaptation of the book by the same name by author Ben McIntyre, and tells the story of Kim Philby, one of the most damaging double agents to ever infiltrate MI6. Cary made his own confession during that conversation, that there is a real-life woman who inspired him to create one of the central characters in the series. Kelly has a surprise of her own for Cary as she introduces him for the first time to the woman who served as his inspiration for the character.

March 30th, 2023

The Movie Makers Series – Rich Klein

Richard Klein, Managing Partner of McLarty Media plays an unusual role in the entertainment industry. He and his firm serve as intermediaries helping some of Hollywood’s biggest movies get made. They advise film studios, directors and producers on issues of “international interest” – on matters like story development, script authenticity, unique overseas location requirements, and complex production logistics. He’ll tell us why there is a need for outfits like his – some of their biggest challenges – and how filmmakers balance entertainment – with accuracy.

March 22nd, 2023

Need To Know

Nick Reynolds’ resume is one for the history books. A PhD from Oxford, followed by active duty in the U.S. Marine Corps, and then service with the CIA – both overseas and running the CIA Museum. Last year he published “Need to Know: World War II and the Rise of American Intelligence” a well-received book that explores the origins. Successes and failures of the whole range of U.S. intelligence agencies during the war. We’ll ask Nick about some of the colorful cast of characters who populate the book.

March 15th, 2023

Alex Cary and A Spy Among Friends

Alex Cary has always been drawn to storytelling. It’s a passion that moved him from his life as a soldier in the UK to Hollywood, where he began writing and producing on shows like ‘Lie to Me’, ‘Homeland’ and ‘Taken’. A few years ago, someone sent him a book by author Ben McIntyre and it set Cary off on a new adventure, this time, creating the television show he’s always wanted to make. His new series tells the story of British Intelligence Officer Kim Philby, who lived a double life by spying for the Soviet Union during World War II and in the early years of the Cold War. In 1963, Philby’s past caught up with him and that’s where Cary’s new series, ‘A Spy Among Friends’, begins. Cary called on a few friends of his own to make it happen, including actor Damian Lewis, whom he’d met on the set of Homeland years earlier. Cover Stories co-host Suzanne Kelly caught up with Cary in Los Angeles to talk about his journey from reading the book to writing and producing the new television series.

March 8th, 2023

Alma Katsu’s Excellent Spy Thriller Adventure

Alma Katsu draws on her 30+ year career in the Intelligence Community for inspiration for her new spy novels. Her latest, Red London follows main character Lindsey Duncan to the UK, where she digs into an undercover assignment to find out everything she can about a Russian oligarch. That’s the obvious mission. Katsu’s own mission in writing the second book in the series is to attract more female readers to the genre by giving women what they want: action, adventure and a really good plot twist.

March 2nd, 2023

Howard & Hollywood

As Executive Producer and Showrunner for shows like Homeland and 24, Howard Gordon has shown that he understands how to take compelling national security topics and make them Hollywood hits. While his new show on Fox, The Accused, doesn’t have a national security angle, Cover Stories caught up with Gordon to talk about what it takes to make good TV in an age of geopolitical turmoil.

February 23rd, 2023

The Gray Man Strikes Again

As author Mark Greaney unleashes the latest novel in his Gray Man series, Cover Stories digs deep into the inspiration behind Burner and asks how that whole Netflix series thing is working out, and what’s next for Court Gentry.

February 16th, 2023

Red Carpet: Hollywood, China and the Global Battle for Cultural Supremacy

Erich Schwartzel covers Hollywood for The Wall Street Journal. Last year, he published a terrific book called Red Carpet: Hollywood, China and the Global Battle for Cultural Supremacy about the power China wields over the American film industry. The Cover Stories Podcast is about books, entertainment and national security and Schwartzel’s book covers all of that like a carpet.

February 2nd, 2023

In The Nation’s Service: The Life and Times of George P. Shultz

Former New York Times journalist Philip Taubman discusses his new biography of George Shultz, one of only two Americans to have held four cabinet level positions (including more than 6 years as Secretary of State during the Reagan administration), In the book Taubman quotes Gorbachev as saying “Without Reagan, the cold war would not have ended, but without Shultz, Reagan would not have ended the cold war.” In this episode – we will ask Taubman why.

January 18th, 2023

Reagan’s War Stories: A Cold War Presidency

Ben Griffin is the author of “Reagan’s War Stories: A Cold War Presidency.” The book examines how Ronald Reagan was shaped by books he read as a young man – and how themes from these books, such as the battle of good vs. evil, continued to influence Reagan throughout his life. It also looks at how popular culture, like Tom Clancy’s novel “The Hunt for Red October,” became an important communications tool during the Reagan presidency. Popular culture and national security are what Cover Stories is all about. Join us for this discussion with Ben Griffin.

January 13th, 2023

A Private Spy: What John le Carre’s Letters Reveal

Author John le Carre was an avid writer of letters as well as novels. What does a new collection of his private correspondence reveal about one of the greatest authors of our time? Who better to ask than someone with intimate knowledge of the world of espionage, who was both irritated and entertained by le Carre’s writing? Join us as former Senior Member of the British Foreign Office Nick Fishwick talks about the new book A Private Spy, edited by Tim Cornwell.

January 5th, 2023

Code Name Blue Wren

In this episode, Bill Harlow interviews Jim Popkin, author of the just-published: Code Name Blue Wren: The True Story of America’s Most Dangerous Female Spy - and the Sister She Betrayed. Popkin talks about his fascination with the story of Ana Montes, a long-time senior Defense Intelligence Agency analyst who was arrested in 2001 for spying for Cuba. They discuss what might have motivated Montes to betray the United States, how she was recruited by Cuba, the tradecraft she employed and how she evaded detection for many years. Having served the bulk of a 25 year sentence in federal prison, Montes is about to be released.

December 29th, 2022

Spies and the Media

In this inaugural episode, Cover Stories co-hosts Suzanne Kelly and Bill Harlow, who once sat on opposite sides of the press room, take turns grilling each other with questions about spies and the media. Kelly, a former Intelligence Correspondent and Harlow, a former government spokesperson always knew there were limits to what could be shared. So, what are those limits and how does the relationship between intelligence agencies and the media really work?

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